- Sean wrote:
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- Daniel prophesied the construction of the second Temple, while
informing the Israelites their messiah would appear and vanish before
the Temple was destroyed. Therefore, the messiah appeared before
70 CE, because that's when the rebuilt Temple was destroyed by the
Roman army leader Titus (Daniel 9:26). Daniel wrote this
prophecy after the first Temple was destroyed, yet before the Temple
was rebuilt. It is therefore indisputable that the messiah
appeared before the rebuilt Temple was destroyed. According to
most Jewish scholars this messiah is Coresh. If you agree with
these scholars, please answer these questions:
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- How did Coresh disappear and vanish (Daniel 9:26)?
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- Mesora: Why can't he disappear?
Messiah, (in line with my last e-mail to you) doesn't mean THE
FINAL messiah. Messiah can also be used, as done here, to mean 'someone
who will save'. Just like Moses lived and died, and was surely a
messiah, Coresh too for rebuilding the temple was referred to as a
messiah.
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- Sean.Schaeffer: Why did he disappear and vanish?
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- Mesora: Humans die. That's
nature. Judaism doesn't believe in supernatural traits except when
applied to G-d. Even miracles which Moses did were executed by G-d.
When Pharaoh asked of Moses to stop the plagues, Moses left the city
and prayed to G-d to stop them. He did this, for Moses knew that Moses
had no power to suspend natural laws created by the Supreme being G-d.
Christianity missed the mark here. They idolize man into that which he
is not. And then claim to just have 'blind faith'. This is required
because there is no proof to religions other than Judaism, such as
Christianity.
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- Sean.Schaeffer: Where did he go?
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- Mesora: This is an irrelevant
point.
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- Sean.Schaeffer: Also, why isn't Coresh's life written in the
Holy Scriptures?
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- Mesora: G-d did not see fit .
Some areas are only in G-d's hands, and we cannot answer. Why did G-d
create the Earth and man? We don't know, as we cannot project motives
onto G-d. Motives is a human phenomena, not a G-dly one.
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- Sean.Schaeffer: No prophet or messiah of God was left
unwritten in the Holy Scriptures; not even the least of the minor
prophets.
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- * Can you think of any prophet
or messiah of God that was left unwritten in the Holy Scriptures?
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- Mesora: Again, Coresh wasn't THE
messiah. He was A messiah.
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- Sean: In my opinion it is conflicting and inconsistent to
conclude that God would tell Daniel to inform the Israelites of
"Coresh" in Daniel 9:25, and then have nothing Scriptural
written about him and his accomplishments now that he's appeared.
It would be like having God inform us of Moses' appearance, yet have
nothing written in the Holy Scriptures about Moses. God is
consistent. If Coresh was the prophesied anointed one of Daniel
9:25-26, he'd be in the Holy Scriptures, because that's how God
reveals His prophets.
- He reveals His prophets in the Holy Scriptures so that we won't have
the inaccuracy of speculating who was or wasn't His prophet or
messiah. As with Jesus, the people of Jeremiah's day questioned
whether or not he was the prophet to obey, but nobody questions
Jeremiah anymore because God had him and his accomplishments recorded
in the Holy Scriptures.
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- * Coresh isn't even professed to
be in any Holy Scriptures by anyone. God will not allow us to
inaccurately speculate our opinions on who were His prophets etc.,
therefore, where are the Holy Scriptures concerning Coresh?
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- Even if one doesn't accept that Yehoshua (Jesus) is the Messiah, or
believe the new covenant as being the Holy Scriptures, His life and
accomplishments are written down as Holy Scripture
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- Mesora: Not true. The new
testament is not part of scripture.
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- Sean: .....and His life was powerful enough to have
influenced the entire earth for nearly two thousand years thus far.
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- Mesora: There's no proof to
Jesus' miracles. For proof of historical events, masses are needed to
be present at the event to verify that it wasn't a hoax. Jesus' so
called miracles never existed. Had they existed, the entire world
would accept them as is done with G-d's miracles of Egypt and the Red
Sea. However, only Christians accept Jesus' miracles, even without
proof. Jews know that they didn't occur, and one nation disbelieving
is enough to punch holes in a historical theory. Just as no one ever
opposed the fact that Caesar was the Roman emperor, and this unanimous
- opinion is what creates our 100% conviction, so also with any other
historical event. If there is not 100% consensus on the facts, then it
cannot be true.
- It is important to note that just because we find millions of people
following Jesus, this does not mean that his stories are true, it does
not mean that his theories are right, and it certainly does not mean
that the Christian followers of today have thought out their actions.
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- Why do you think that all preachers are charismatic? If their ideas
were accurate, they could depend on the content to win over people.
This is why debating scientists do not get up on the pedestal and sing
to their audiences with chanting tunes as preachers when giving a
lecture. They do not need to. Their ideas are based on fact. If their
theories are false, their students will say so. If they are true, they
will accept them,......without any chanting.
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- Preachers however are merely trying to win over people with their
charisma, as their content lacks any rationale.
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- The bottom line is that G-d created only one type of man. If you
find any person with kidney problems of a certain type, whether he's
black or white, tall or short, blond or brunette, Asian or Caucasian,
doctors will administer the same treatment, as the human body is
essentially the same: 2 lungs, 2 kidneys, one heart, one brain, etc.
- The same singular design exists for the mental half of man. All
humans are created with love, hate, sorrow, pity, remorse, guilt,
humor, and so on. Just as what works the same for the physical half of
man to heal him, regardless of external features, so also what works
best for man's mental equilibrium and happiness is consistent for ALL
mankind.
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- G-d created one type of human. G-d created one system since there is
only one human prototype.
- This is the Torah. Historically proven to be given i a miraculous
event on Mount Sinai in the year 2448 according to the Jewish
calendar.
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- It is an unfortunate thing that so many people are misguided due to
mere numbers as an argument. A rational person would not accept that
gravity doesn't exist even if a billion people said so. We must apply
the same scientific approach to religion and state objectively,
without and prejudice towards the followers, that Christianity simply
doesn't follow reason. Many Christians who have been brave enough to
withstand disapproval of their peers have broken away from this blind
faith of Christianity, and are secure in their reasoning. I have yet
to find a Christian who claims that Christianity is based o reason.
- Why should this most important area of one's life be empty of
reason, and even on principle? In all other areas, we use our minds
which G-d has given us a the mark of distinction from all of creation.
Should we not use this mind when selecting a philosophy for ourselves?
Of course we should.
- I hope that those reading this will understand that I speak
objectively when I disapprove of a religion, just as I would
disapprove of a medicinal potion which is harmful.
- This is how I wish my words to be understood, and I hope that
rational and objective reflection will be prompted by these words, to
the end that one uses their mind even in religious selection.
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- Rabbi Moshe Ben-Chaim
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